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Local Politics / Re: Airport Issues
« on: Today at 08:40:02 AM »
Wow - I think we've found why the PHAA wants so badly to ignore WV law:

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6-9A4: Exceptions

(a) The governing body may hold an executive session during a regular, special, or emergency meeting, in accordance with the provisions of this section. During the open portion of the meeting, prior to convening an executive session, the presiding officer of the governing body shall identify the authorization under this section for holding the executive session and present it to the governing body and to the general public, but no decision may be made in the executive session.

Taken from page 15 of the WV Open Meetings Handbook.

In contrast, the MD Open Meetings Act expressly allows final decisions in closed session. Seems like a slamdunk for any West Virginia citizen willing to call them on it.

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Local Politics / Re: Airport Issues
« on: August 28, 2014, 10:30:09 PM »
We can bet the farm on a show pony clean, West Virginia compliant love fest this Thursday.

As you predicted, Dave, tonight's meeting had all PHAA board members singing from the same hymnal. "Moving forward" was the mantra. They may be wrong about the autocross, but at least they are confidently wrong. :)

I can't speak to West Virginia law, but when the board went into closed session, they did so in compliance with Maryland Open Meetings Act procedures. Board attorney Ramon Rozas was well prepared with the required written statement, and all topics to be discussed were adequately described.

As for what went on in the (lengthy) closed session, board chair Dr. Gregg Wolff reported only that the board had decided to "reject a settlement" and to "move to dismiss an appeal and pursue their claim." The agenda had included an item reading "Motion per Dr. Lechliter concerning Terry Malone," but that item was not discussed in the open portion of the meeting.

One moment of unintentional comedy came when airport manager Ryan Shaffer relayed a compliment he had received from a TSA official (video here). The official told Shaffer that "Cumberland was the nicest general aviation airport that he had been to in the state of WEST VIRGINIA." Guess that settles the jurisdiction question. :)

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Marc, you know every private institution in a free market is at risk of closure.  Churches close.  Soup kitchens closed.  Factories close.  A privately funded animal shelter can close. 

Would you have county tax dollars go to American Woodmark or St. Patrick's, to ensure that they stay open? How much money would you confiscate from county residents to keep them running?

Given the level of public support that the shelter has, I'm sure it would no problem continuing its operations without being propped up by force.

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Unless we have another parallel shelter, where else would animal control take them? Take them all to the shelter, and they can do what they want with them.

that's what i'm thinking marc, i don't understand how vor's alternate county/private scenario accomplishes anything that she has been complaining about since the foundation started.
if you are still going to have all the animals go back to the shelter after a mandatory hold period, then just send them to the shelter.
skip the middle man, save government money.
midlife, i agree i'm not convinced that the idea as presented is without an agenda.
i'm anxious to see how voice feels that proposed idea changes how things already operate and quells her current concerns?

There is tension between the roles of animal control and animal shelter. The public safety interest is in keeping animals off the streets; the animal fans' interest is in taking care of doggies and kitties.

Even before this latest episode, we saw reports here on CC of residents who complained about stray cats being told to adopt them. Not everyone wants to have a house full of animals; some people just want the stray cats off their porch.

Let the county perform the animal control role with dedicated officers (and hand over animals to the shelter). Let the shelter take care of doggies and kitties however it wants, but on its own dime.

If the shelter is wholly in the private market, you have to allow it to fail, right Marc?

So what happens if the shelter closes?  Do we instruct animal control to execute all animals they catch?

Why would the shelter ever close? I'm sure all those who support funding it with other people's tax dollars will be happy to fund it with their own voluntary contributions.

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Unless we have another parallel shelter, where else would animal control take them? Take them all to the shelter, and they can do what they want with them.

that's what i'm thinking marc, i don't understand how vor's alternate county/private scenario accomplishes anything that she has been complaining about since the foundation started.
if you are still going to have all the animals go back to the shelter after a mandatory hold period, then just send them to the shelter.
skip the middle man, save government money.
midlife, i agree i'm not convinced that the idea as presented is without an agenda.
i'm anxious to see how voice feels that proposed idea changes how things already operate and quells her current concerns?

There is tension between the roles of animal control and animal shelter. The public safety interest is in keeping animals off the streets; the animal fans' interest is in taking care of doggies and kitties.

Even before this latest episode, we saw reports here on CC of residents who complained about stray cats being told to adopt them. Not everyone wants to have a house full of animals; some people just want the stray cats off their porch.

Let the county perform the animal control role with dedicated officers (and hand over animals to the shelter). Let the shelter take care of doggies and kitties however it wants, but on its own dime.

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How about a novel idea I have floated before.

Return Animal Control to the county funded and staffed at the former level.
Animal Control is responsible for enforcement and the mandatory hold periods for animals.

At the end of the mandatory hold ALL animals that Animal Control deems adoptable are transferred to the Foundation.

The Foundation gets to run their no kill shelter without any County funding.

The foundation gets NO say in the operations of Animal Control.

that's not that bad of an idea, but i guess you're kind of sending me mixed signals here.
i am under the impression by reading your posts over the last while that you are strictly in this argument because you are against no-kill shelters.
so, while your idea has some merit to it, it certainly doesn't satisfy your need to end the no-kill piece.
so what's in it for you?

A possible problem in this scenario is that Animal Control decides which animals they deem adoptable.  With their past history of destroying so many animals, how would we know what they are doing with them?  There would have to be someone from outside Animal Control to monitor the animals that come in to them.

Unless we have another parallel shelter, where else would animal control take them? Take them all to the shelter, and they can do what they want with them.

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I think you're mistaken Mark, I have read somewhere that the County is under contract with the shelter foundation to run all matters animal related. Could you explain how it is funded when there is a contract?

Animal control is a legitimate function of local government. Using tax dollars for that is fine (as long as the function is actually carried out by the contractor).

An animal shelter, while a lovely thing, is not something that should be funded by putting guns to people's heads and taking their money. It should be funded by freely given donations.

It makes no difference to me whether my tax dollars are spent directly by the county, or indirectly by the shelter. The difference is immaterial. The county missed an opportunity to get out of the shelter business entirely.

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I'm not sure if you're aware of this Marc, but the County does not fund the shelter or animal control. The shelter is under contract with the County, and is paid x amount of money to run each.

Right. That's the funding.

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Maybe we should all think about having the head of this shelter face the voters? Maybe it would be better as an elected position than one self-appointed which apprently is now the case.

I don't think more government entanglement is the answer. I'd rather end public funding and let the shelter operate on its own merits.

Then what do you do with the animals caught by Animal Control?

Take them to the shelter.

I know it can be hard to believe, but it is possible for institutions to exist without being funded by force.

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Maybe we should all think about having the head of this shelter face the voters? Maybe it would be better as an elected position than one self-appointed which apprently is now the case.

I don't think more government entanglement is the answer. I'd rather end public funding and let the shelter operate on its own merits.

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Local Politics / Re: Airport Issues
« on: August 25, 2014, 01:39:42 PM »
“The PHAA appreciates and respects the West Virginia attorney general’s opinion, but realizes it is an opinion. The PHAA has other opinions in years past from its legal counsel that cite reasons favoring Maryland,” said Shaffer.

The PHAA outlines its legal philosophy...



:)

I hope West Virginia enforces its open meetings laws to the fullest extent. As for the airport, as I often tell elected officials: If you don't have anything to hide - don't hide it!

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Local Events / Re: Allegany Boardgaming Society
« on: August 23, 2014, 01:20:19 AM »
Come on out and join us tomorrow!

Saturday, August 23rd, 11AM-5PM - at the Washington Street Library meeting room

We're going to be brushing up on our Settlers skills in preparation for...



The Settlers of Catan tournament being held Sunday at Arkham Games! Should be fun!

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Allegany County Discussion / Re: Hooray for VP Dave Kauffman
« on: August 21, 2014, 02:49:38 PM »
We need just go to uniforms. This would solve a lot of trouble such as what Dave talk about, plus uniforms would be a lot cheaper for everyone.

Anytime you can find a way to shut down a creative outlet for kids and squeeze any last bit of individuality out of them in favor of absolute conformity, you have to do it.

Just think of it as forced unionization for kids. ;)

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The NRA sometimes gets unusually quiet about these things.

The Tea Partiers can stand outside of polling places (or walk through Chipotle) exercising their second amendment rights by holding semi-automatic rifles.  Got it.

Can the Black Panthers do the same thing? How about the Bloods or the Crips?

Actually, the NRA criticized Open Carry Texas (but was blasted by membership and forced to take it back).

Can you imagine what would happen if the Ferguson protesters were armed?  If the second amendment applies to them like it applies to Cliven Bundy and the tea partiers, the protesters should be able to walk down the street, armed to the teeth, without having to worry about anything from the police.

Agreed.

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An organization called the Huey P. Newton Gun Club is practicing open carry in Dallas:





Why?

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Individuals across this nation have been stripped of due process, subjected to state-sponsored police terrorism, and continue to suffer the fate of being terminated extra-judicially.

    In Dallas the police have murdered over 70 unarmed individuals, most of the black and brown men, over the last ten years. Excluding a recent incident where police testimony was contradicted by surveillance footage, there have been no indictments since 1973.

    The people, who are gunned down and murdered by violent and militarized police forces, have formed the Huey P. Newton Gun Club, for the specific purpose of self defense and community policing.

It's an interesting mirror image of the Cliven Bundy standoff: another group of Americans exercising their Second Amendment rights in resistance to excessive force.

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National Politics / Re: War Gear Flows to Police Departments
« on: August 19, 2014, 12:27:23 PM »
Ironically, some of the politicians now complaining about police militarization just voted against an amendment that would have limited transfers of military equipment to local cops. Rep. Lacy Clay, who represents Ferguson, said recently:

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The scenes that we saw in Ferguson, Missouri, this past week, with a militarized police force facing down innocent protesters with sniper rifles and machine guns is totally unacceptable in America.

Yet he voted no on the amendment, as did our own Rep. Delaney.

The amendment was authored by Florida Representative Alan Grayson, and the 65 votes for it came from a diverse coalition of liberal Democrats and Tea Party Republicans.

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Okay, but here is my question.  What if they start holding meetings in Maryland?  This airport was created by an agreement between two states.  There are actually more board members from Maryland than from West Virginia.  I am not sure that the physical location alone determines which law applies.  The meetings could be easily held at Kelly Road.  Now which law applies?

And I am not impressed that a West Virginia politician gave the opinion that West Virginia law applies.  What did you expect him to say?  How could he politically take any other position?  I have read his reasoning and I think it is kinda weak.  But hey David Williams has made his ruling and this is his website, so I guess it is a decided issue.

I am just suggesting that this legal question may not be as clear as everybody thinks.  As for the rest of the dysfunction?  Sounds like a mess to me!

I'm not sure about WV law, but in Maryland, the location of the meeting doesn't matter. If (for example) the county commissioners meet in Garrett County or Pennsylvania or Paris - they are still subject to Maryland's Open Meetings Act.

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Allegany County Discussion / Re: Demolition Activity at Nave's Cross Rd.
« on: August 11, 2014, 09:27:00 AM »
What the heck is the hold up with the Love's site?  Demolished, graded and abandoned.  Seems like no activity at all in months.  Is this another undone development?

State red tape.

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From WCBC:

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Potomac Highlands Airport Authority Looking To Meet With Commissioners

The Potomac Highlands Airport Authority has experienced a myriad of problems and some controversy this year with issues ranging from which state is considered by the FAA to be the actual home of the airport, to whether or not the annual auto race should be held. Those issues, and others, led to a decision by Allegany County Commissioner Creade Brodie Jr. to step down from chair of the authority in June. With Allegany County as one of those governments providing funding for the airport, Brodie says the newly restructured authority board would like to meet with the commissioners later this summer…

I applaud Commissioner Brodie's idea. The other commissioners have been ducking their responsibility for the airport for too long. A public meeting between the commissioners and the airport board will hopefully bring some things to light.

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Things have come to a pretty pass when our best hope for transparency and good government at the airport is West Virginia.

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